911 and 912
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By 993pbug
#1461
Any other 993 owners here yet? Would be great to get a dedicated slot for us in our new-found home!
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By XR4Tim
#1503
No, but it's the best 911, so I'll support it.
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By martyp
#2090
96 C4 arena/black here. You?
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By 993Maineiac
#2135
One more for the group.
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By 993pbug
#2161
martyp wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:16 am 96 C4 arena/black here. You?
‘98 C2S Blk / Blk. Sending it out today to do trans rebuild ... final piece of the slippery slope puzzle!!
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By David993S
#2292
993pbug wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:57 am Any other 993 owners here yet? Would be great to get a dedicated slot for us in our new-found home!
Yep. '97 black/black 993 C2S owner here.
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By martyp
#2416
993pbug wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:09 am ‘98 C2S Blk / Blk. Sending it out today to do trans rebuild ... final piece of the slippery slope puzzle!!
Lol, not sure anyone ever gets back up to the top once over the edge. Good luck with the rebuild
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By David993S
#3261
This thread needs some 993 pics. Here's mine:
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By amdavid
#3487
My 97 993 4S glam shot. Don't have hi-res. Not sure if I miss the 993 or the amazon green 964 I owned more. :(
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By 993pbug
#3773
Can never have too many pics!
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By Asquared
#3796
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1997- ... era-4s-22/

Want.

Depending on where it winds up, I could probably afford the car, but my wife would make me get rid of one of my current Porsches, and I can't choose.
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By 993pbug
#3836
Asquared wrote: Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:44 pm https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1997- ... era-4s-22/

Want.

Depending on where it winds up, I could probably afford the car, but my wife would make me get rid of one of my current Porsches, and I can't choose.
That’s a stunning color combo ... especially in person. My friend has the identical car and makes me not like Black too much!
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By amdavid
#4025
Yeah, never too much 993 eye candy.

Mine was L347 with Cashmere.
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By David993S
#5388
Just to bump the 993 forum to the top.........
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By AllanH
#5588
Gone a year now;
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By Ponchobroke
#5865
Owned since 02, 170k miles. Engine rebuild this year by Rothsport. All maintenance and mods in-house.
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By Ponchobroke
#6051
More Pics
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By amdavid
#6052
Kinda like the way you tucked the front plate in....

Got a set of those MY02 bbs getting a refinish and ready for da 9 4 4.
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By amdavid
#6053
Having owned a 97, if I ever went back to a 993, it would be a 95' with the good ole basket handle, love it!....not only that the SAI problem on later models and I always hated the immobilizer, nightmare.
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By amdavid
#6826
Posting in both 997 & 993.
No flames, simple question. Since I've owned both, I can ask this question and have an opinion.

Speaking only on aesthetics; 993S or a 997S. Which one appeals more to you?

Not considering driving, just looks, I'm going to say the 993. When I owned my 9934S, there was not another car on the road I would have preferred to drive.
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By Ponchobroke
#6869
I’ve followed my car a few times. There’s nothing like the ass end of a 993!
I just wish I could see it when I’m driving.
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By XR4Tim
#7061
amdavid wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:20 pm Posting in both 997 & 993.
No flames, simple question. Since I've owned both, I can ask this question and have an opinion.

Speaking only on aesthetics; 993S or a 997S. Which one appeals more to you?

Not considering driving, just looks, I'm going to say the 993. When I owned my 9934S, there was not another car on the road I would have preferred to drive.
993 without question.
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By TheDeckMan
#9210
Thread needs more pictures
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By David993S
#9226
MY02's are some of the best looking wheels on a NB 993.
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By amdavid
#9469
^^Agreed^^

IMO one of the best looking wheels on the 944S2. Twists look great on the 951, but don't think they're appropriate on a none boosted 944.

I keep wondering which 911 I'll end up in.......in the next few years. If I do a 993 again I will only do a 95', the CEL and immobilizer in my 97 was a PIA.
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By Kigiin
#9573
My old 97 C4S.... will soon return to the air-cooled club.
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By fast_freddy
#9583
Thinking of getting one again. Preferably on the rougher end of the spectrum. A project (but not too much) if you will. Frankly, these things are easy to work on and look forward to it. I got rid of my last one three and a half years ago mostly because I just simply didn't have the time to tidy it up, nor drive it. Now, my kids are off to college so...

I've seen pricing all over the place. All the way from mid $20's up to over $100k (non Turbo). Obviously, there's wishful thinking for many of them priced in. Pricing does appear to have flattened/come down slightly from whence I parted with mine. That is to say, with inflation it's gone down a bit. I don't care if it needs a new top end as that's not as big a deal as often proffered at 40 hours labor plus parts. Most everything else I'd do myself and did on my prior one.
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By TheDeckMan
#9681
fast_freddy wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:31 pm Thinking of getting one again. Preferably on the rougher end of the spectrum. A project (but not too much) if you will. Frankly, these things are easy to work on and look forward to it. I got rid of my last one three and a half years ago mostly because I just simply didn't have the time to tidy it up, nor drive it. Now, my kids are off to college so...

I've seen pricing all over the place. All the way from mid $20's up to over $100k (non Turbo). Obviously, there's wishful thinking for many of them priced in. Pricing does appear to have flattened/come down slightly from whence I parted with mine. That is to say, with inflation it's gone down a bit. I don't care if it needs a new top end as that's not as big a deal as often proffered at 40 hours labor plus parts. Most everything else I'd do myself and did on my prior one.
Really liked your last one. The prices really have seemed to flatten a good bit with all the insanity being in the 997 GT3 world driven by Doug and the other dealers. To be honest paying 85-90k for a 997 GT3 is silly when you can buy a good 993 and have plenty left over for some care and upkeep.

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By fast_freddy
#10007
TheDeckMan wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:05 pm
fast_freddy wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:31 pm Thinking of getting one again. Preferably on the rougher end of the spectrum. A project (but not too much) if you will. Frankly, these things are easy to work on and look forward to it. I got rid of my last one three and a half years ago mostly because I just simply didn't have the time to tidy it up, nor drive it. Now, my kids are off to college so...

I've seen pricing all over the place. All the way from mid $20's up to over $100k (non Turbo). Obviously, there's wishful thinking for many of them priced in. Pricing does appear to have flattened/come down slightly from whence I parted with mine. That is to say, with inflation it's gone down a bit. I don't care if it needs a new top end as that's not as big a deal as often proffered at 40 hours labor plus parts. Most everything else I'd do myself and did on my prior one.
Really liked your last one. The prices really have seemed to flatten a good bit with all the insanity being in the 997 GT3 world driven by Doug and the other dealers. To be honest paying 85-90k for a 997 GT3 is silly when you can buy a good 993 and have plenty left over for some care and upkeep.

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Thanks. Mine, as you might recall, was similar to that one (did have the RS sill trim too). The biggest "improvement" was the RS suspension bushings (ERS if memory serves), RS uprights and Turbo sways along with Rennline solid subframe mounts. It wasn't harsh at all. With Volk wheels and RS2's I would outperform a friends supercharged NA Miata (240BHP) that was stripped with R compounds in most AutoX events except super tight/low gear events. The only other improvement I'd make with another would be the gearbox. First is just too short, second way too tall (relative to first). Other than that, it's perfect. Way too many people are hell bent on having more grunt. However, with 272-290~BHP its more than enough.

The immediate project for me is "pimping" my daughters NB Miata. By pimp, I mean just replacing the suspension bushings, new shocks and replacing the tires. The tires have plenty of tread but are old. At 145k miles the suspension is just long in the tooth. I'm replacing the EGR valve Sunday and doing the rest over the next week or so as she's off to school tomorrow and it wont be needed. Those things are a ton of fun at lower speeds. My onlt gripe about it is at 65mph it runs 3500 rpm so its a bit loud.
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By AllanH
#10050
I loved the 993 and owned it for 10+ years. The problem I had was the ergonomics. I couldn't get a comfortable driving position to save my life. I even put in a Recaro Expert which helped but the car simply didn't fit my body. Maybe a 997 would suit me better but even that feels a little tight. Just getting old I guess.
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By martyp
#10175
tonydec wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:27 pm Just registered.
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Welcome!
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By TheDeckMan
#10198
fast_freddy wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:41 am
Thanks. Mine, as you might recall, was similar to that one (did have the RS sill trim too). The biggest "improvement" was the RS suspension bushings (ERS if memory serves), RS uprights and Turbo sways along with Rennline solid subframe mounts. It wasn't harsh at all. With Volk wheels and RS2's I would outperform a friends supercharged NA Miata (240BHP) that was stripped with R compounds in most AutoX events except super tight/low gear events. The only other improvement I'd make with another would be the gearbox. First is just too short, second way too tall (relative to first). Other than that, it's perfect. Way too many people are hell bent on having more grunt. However, with 272-290~BHP its more than enough.

The immediate project for me is "pimping" my daughters NB Miata. By pimp, I mean just replacing the suspension bushings, new shocks and replacing the tires. The tires have plenty of tread but are old. At 145k miles the suspension is just long in the tooth. I'm replacing the EGR valve Sunday and doing the rest over the next week or so as she's off to school tomorrow and it wont be needed. Those things are a ton of fun at lower speeds. My onlt gripe about it is at 65mph it runs 3500 rpm so its a bit loud.
Yep I remember your car vividly, really thought it might go well in my garage but alas was not in the cards. It is amazing how some simple suspension upgrades really can improve an old platform. Sounds like a long weekend project on your daughters Miata, 3500 is a bit buzzy for the highway, that is like my Corrado with the VW Motorsport gear set. Super fast out of the corners but not ideal for road trips.
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By amdavid
#25595
My 4S glam shot, boy do I wish it hadn't gotten away.


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By fpena944
#25612
When I was shopping for a 911 back in 2009, I had narrowed it down to a 1996 993 cabrio (triple black) and my 2002 996 cabrio for the exact same price.

I loved the 993 but was concerned about the SAI repairs, A/C not being as effective, and the smaller size not fitting a carseat in the back.

My 996 was probably the right choice but man I sometimes think "what if?" and know that in terms of potential appreciation I definitely didn't make the right choice!

Beautiful cars for sure!
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By amdavid
#25631
Yep, a few things that sucked about the 97.....if I went with a 993 again it would definitely be a 95.

SAI/CEL and immobilizer, really sucked!....plus I like the basket handle 3rd brake light on the 95's.
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By fpena944
#25634
amdavid wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:24 pm Yep, a few things that sucked about the 97.....if I went with a 993 again it would definitely be a 95.

SAI/CEL and immobilizer, really sucked!....plus I like the basket handle 3rd brake light on the 95's.
Funny you mention the immobilizer because when I went to test drive that car it took a few minutes to get the ignition to work. They needed about 3 salespeople to take a look at get it operational.

But the '95s have less horsepower. Does it make that much of a difference? I've only been in a 1996 and 1997.
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By amdavid
#25638
Negligible. 993's without boost aren't particularly fast, 95 or otherwise. Can't comment on the 996, but my 997S had lots more power than the 993. If you want fast, boost is the ticket these days....

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