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By Tony
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87s4

seal is on the glass fine and the trim went in easily with some soapy water on the barbed trim piece as well as in the channel it slots into.

The issue I'm have is getting it all to the correct installtion spot on the rubber seal. At the ends there has to be enough trim left over to slide into the corner trim pieces. At this point it has just been trial and error and i always end up with a gap at either end. Im to the point where the gaps are even though.

I assume when the seal is installed in the car it compresses up against the glass and effectivly reduces its length and the trim parts “should” meet with the required overlap they need

Really only have one shot at doing it right which is why in thinking about putting the window in first then adding the trim with soap in the groove and pushing it in. Ive read success stories both ways....trim on...and trim off during rear quarter glass installation.

tips..ideas...

(The corners will be repainted to match )
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By worf
#57012
New trim??
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By Tony
#57022
Nope...stuff that came off it. Plastic. Only new parts are the upper corners and they are metal.
You think i can get the trim on after the window is installed?
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By worf
#57029
Tony wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:56 pm Nope...stuff that came off it. Plastic. Only new parts are the upper corners and they are metal.
k. There are two styles of trim. The OE trim was a plastic over aluminum. Replacement was all plastic. The all plastic bits are a bit shorter.
You think i can get the trim on after the window is installed?
Yes.

I've tried it every which way. Can't say I've found the best/easiest way.

Since you'll have to adjust the trim once the window is in so as to get enough 'meat' under the trim pieces you'll want to make sure the channel is nicely lubed.

You'll really want a helper. One person inside pulling on the string(*) and the other outside moving the window around and pushing.

(*) You know the string trick right???

Get the string into the inside channel. Attach the trim and corner pieces as best you can.

Start with the lower corner and get a bit of the upper frame done. Then work your way around the bottom and around the other corner to meet in the middle.

Some of the trim and/or corner pieces may pop out or the long pieces won't be centered enough to capture the corner trim. You'll probably need to 'work' the trim pieces left/right to capture the corner trim.

Before you start, make sure that the corner trim and edge trim pieces CAN mate. Slight deformations in either and they won't. Sometimes 'adjustments' have to be made.
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By Tony
#57033
Yup. :thumbup:
Watched Deans little YT video on it. Will be using lots of soap and will soak my cord in the soapy water also.
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By worf
#57034
BTW, my go-to tool for messing with the trim and gaskets is a "dental spoon"

https://www.supplyclinic.com/items/exca ... jji-04-718

It's not sharp at either end so it's hard to pierce or cut the gasket with it. But, it's strong so you can use it to "pull" on the channel to get the trim in.
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By worf
#57035
Tony wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:31 pm Yup. :thumbup:
Watched Deans little YT video on it. Will be using lots of soap and will soak my cord in the soapy water also.
I find "Stan Lube" is the shizzle for this task. Soap dries quickly.
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By Tony
#57050
Got a big ol tube of stan lube :roflmao:


There is no way i have this much leway on mine. Granted this image is from an old car...


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By Tony
#63085
Problem solved.

Ordered 4 new trim parts. They are longer than what was on my car and provided the corners with plenty of overlap.

Im thinking it was the new seal that made things difficult....but it was new trim pieces that made it all fit correcly.

Putting them in tomorrow.

The silver dots are from a sharpie so i had a reference to how far the corners were overlapping.


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By worf
#63087
Good news!
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By worf
#63101
@Tony, so lemme get this straight: The trim you removed seemed, at the time before removal, to fit properly. Yet when you went to install it with a new gasket, it was “too short.”

Yes? Any other context about the trim you removed?
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By Tony
#63243
yup...the only thing i had originally changed was the gasket as it was caked with sealant and really dried out.

the trim i removed was plastic. it was a very thin aluminum sheet core with plastic over laid.

the 4 new ones seemed like all metal...and were at least 1/2 longer.

windows went in today. :rockon: with the trim all set in place.
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By worf
#63248
Tony wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:49 pm yup...the only thing i had originally changed was the gasket as it was caked with sealant and really dried out.
Huh. I wonder if the newest gaskets are somehow just a little bit off.

On the other hand, it may be that I've always done that job with new corners because the old ones were messed up from previous folks pokin' at'em.
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