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By Crumpler
#67040
That seems crazy even for RL.
I just looked, is it in a specific thread or was the evidence wiped away already?
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By ROG100
#67041
Already wiped clean by Mod Bob. I cannot post anything about parts even though it is my 928 specific area of expertise. Anything I post about parts will immediately be construed as promoting my company. Someone asked me about the price of a set of Boge reds. My answer was $1600 which is public domain information - banned.
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By worf
#67057
Welp...

... when are 928 folks over there gonna be sick and tired enough?

Maybe it's time for a more formal invitation for the alternative. I'll think about that.
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By Crumpler
#67059
Sorry Roger. That’s just uncomfortable and avoidable on their part.
It seems an odd hill for them to want to die on, but obviously they are playing out some preconceived plan.

I would assume it will only cause a second exodus of folks leaving the RL forum.
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By Geza-aka-Zombo
#67061
I noticed in the new owner thread in the list of parts suppliers (post 19) 928srus is still listed but the link to the site appears broken. Not sure if it is related, just pointing it out.
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By Daniel5691
#67062
This tears it.
The men who "M-o-d-e-r-a-t-e-d" Roger have 100% I guarantee you benefited from Roger's excellent assistance and business over the years.
Seriously, his service and attention to detail are above reproach. The mods know that about him, as a man.

At what point does one decide that they have stopped functioning as an individual using a platform, to the point that they take on the values and "become" the platform.

The degradation of behavior of THE MEMBERS on RL is absolutely shocking to me. I thought we were car guys.
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By Fox_
#67071
ROG100 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:12 pm Already wiped clean by Mod Bob. I cannot post anything about parts even though it is my 928 specific area of expertise. Anything I post about parts will immediately be construed as promoting my company. Someone asked me about the price of a set of Boge reds. My answer was $1600 which is public domain information - banned.
That Bob dude is a dweeb.

Amazing how fast RL went to hell.
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By Crumpler
#67079
Fox_ wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:04 pm
ROG100 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:12 pm Already wiped clean by Mod Bob. I cannot post anything about parts even though it is my 928 specific area of expertise. Anything I post about parts will immediately be construed as promoting my company. Someone asked me about the price of a set of Boge reds. My answer was $1600 which is public domain information - banned.
That Bob dude is a dweeb.

Amazing how fast RL went to hell.
Dr. Bob Fox ;)

Bob lost my faith when I saw his disclaimer on his signature:
“.... I can not legally be held responsible for any advice given”

:hitfan:
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By fpena944
#67081
worf wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:06 pm Welp...

... when are 928 folks over there gonna be sick and tired enough?

Maybe it's time for a more formal invitation for the alternative. I'll think about that.
I noticed any mention of this site over there has been completely erased. Any invitation would have to be done via PM.

You would think a site with their reputation and history wouldn't have a problem with sharing other great online resources for the good of the community, but I guess when it potentially takes away from IB's bottom line then that crosses the line.
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By worf
#67090
fpena944 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:34 pm I noticed any mention of this site over there has been completely erased. Any invitation would have to be done via PM.
I hadn't searched. I'm not surprised.

I was thinking a new thread in the 928 forum that might last minutes and perhaps get me actually banned as opposed to the functionally-limited account I have now.

If so, it would need to be posted after West Coast Dr. Bob goes to bed. So... 2-3 AM EST.

Or I could just change my signature to "928 Tips" with a link to this forum... :hitfan:
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By maddog2020
#67092
my full membership over there expires in about 30 days so after that I won't care. I have some bits I need to sell, and get rid of so until that happens, I won't poke the bear too hard. I search over there for stuff, but I refuse to post technical stuff even when I see people asking questions or posting wrong stuff.
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By jej3
#67114
What's to keep one or several of us from saying "I know 928sRus sells these for around $1,600"

No different than saying you can get 5 quart jug of oil at Walmart for around $25 on sale.

I personally lost faith in Bob when he became GBs "inside guy".
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By linderpat
#67115
this is just horse shit. I let my thoughts be known in the new member Roger thread this morning. I think it is time for Dr Bob, whom I've always respected by the way, to let us know if he stands with the 928 guys or if he is an IB company man (in a volunteer job no less). I will call him out on this. I'm pissed at what's going on there.
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By The Fat Man
#67125
linderpat wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:09 am this is just horse shit. I let my thoughts be known in the new member Roger thread this morning. I think it is time for Dr Bob, whom I've always respected by the way, to let us know if he stands with the 928 guys or if he is an IB company man (in a volunteer job no less). I will call him out on this. I'm pissed at what's going on there.
Agreed. This is all quite disturbing.
And bullshit.
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By Daniel5691
#67132
Well, one thing's for sure, it's not "over"...
When this type of punitive school-yard policing starts, it knows no end.
The thing that will happen next is that the mods will start trolling members to force a "violation"...

I hate it.

Failure To Tyrants.
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By Daniel5691
#67166
More and more I think RL will just turn into an "archive" for me, to look up DIY issues.
But I am sick of RL enough not to post any more of my own DIY write ups over there, no way.
Hopefully enough will join here to give the 928 section critical mass.

Of course, Dave already has a critical mass in his adult diapers.
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By linderpat
#67169
yes, this is true. By now, many of us have had multiple cars and see fewer novel issues as we work on them, so we just need the archival material to research the more obscure things we run into. I am still going to remain a RL member though, and contribute when I can add something. I quit completely the OT/PC section on the day of the great washing (when I joined here; last July). I'll never post in those areas. I rarely even look anymore.
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By GT6ixer
#67174
Man I am on the edge of completely hopping the fence from RL to here. All the cool kids are over here now anyway and don't post as much on RL anymore. And what the heck happened to Erik? He rarely posts and doesn't seem to moderate the forum anymore. He used to have our backs in situations like this.
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By SeanR
#67176
GT6ixer wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:23 pm Man I am on the edge of completely hopping the fence from RL to here. All the cool kids are over here now anyway and don't post as much on RL anymore. And what the heck happened to Erik? He rarely posts and doesn't seem to moderate the forum anymore. He used to have our backs in situations like this.
He still does and is fighting a losing battle right now. He knows it but is still hoping something changes.
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By GT6ixer
#67181
My membership is up at the end of April. I will not be renewing because of RL's ban of Roger and the other guys. From now till then I am going to use my PM privileges to send messages to everyone I know encouraging them to, at the very least, come over to Open Road and participate. I assume the mods don't monitor PMs correct? I suggest those of you that also can PM, do the same. That will help recruit on bunch of folks.

The day before my membership is up I will also be positing a thread indicating as such and asking anyone else who is planning to do the same thing to acknowledge it on that thread. I think it is important that IB gets to hear from their former customers on why they have decided no to no longer patronize the site.
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By worf
#67198
GT6ixer wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:46 pm I assume the mods don't monitor PMs correct?
PMs are transparent to mods, IIRC.

However, unless IB has found someone that can actually write code... :kickbutt:

... only active suspicion would cause a mod to look through PMs.
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By linderpat
#67206
worf wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:07 pm
GT6ixer wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:46 pm I assume the mods don't monitor PMs correct?
...

... only active suspicion would cause a mod to look through PMs.
I'm sure they're looking through mine right now. And, they'll find stuff :silenced:
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By SeanR
#67212
Besides 928 Specialists, he's the only paying vendor for the 928 section now. Specialists doesn't pay for it since they were grandfathered in when John D built the place.
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By LPMM
#67213
linderpat wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:09 am this is just horse shit. I let my thoughts be known in the new member Roger thread this morning. I think it is time for Dr Bob, whom I've always respected by the way, to let us know if he stands with the 928 guys or if he is an IB company man (in a volunteer job no less). I will call him out on this. I'm pissed at what's going on there.
Maybe he has been good to the 928 community, but his biased moderating skills in the P&C forum show that the totally shit the bed and that he is an IB company man. I've never met him, I have no desire to do so, and Dr Boob can piss up a tree for all I care.
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By linderpat
#67215
Yeah the irony of Greg’s post was,ahem, something else. I responded, but only indirectly. I did challenge Dr Bob directly though - stand with us 928 guys or be not a part of us. We shall see how that goes.
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By worf
#67220
SeanR wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:27 pm Besides 928 Specialists ... doesn't pay for it since they were grandfathered in when John D built the place.
IIRC they pay for it. But, yes, at a rate reduced from IB's "what will the market bear" price chart due to being the original sponsor under JD The First.
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By ChrisZ
#67226
Well, I just dumped out. Been there since before 2000 with my (now long gone) Mike Cooley 914. Guess it just takes time, but note that I had to ask someone in a PM about the location to this forum, so you might want to figure out a way to post a general message to the list saying the brain is gone.

If IB gives a fuck they will fix this issue. If they just kickban the messages then well, you know where it's at.

Sad. Really sad. But if this forum didn't exist I would have made one of my own on my home servers here.
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By Crumpler
#67229
LPMM wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:23 pm Look who the cat dragged in the thread :rolleyes:

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Way to stay classy Greg.
:hitfan:


Hey let me edit this in the last five minutes Greg has tried to drag Roger through the mud with this:
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Now I’m just mad. Was an asshole.
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By ladybug83
#67258
Sorry to hear this Roger. I hope it doesn’t negatively impact your business. Kind of goes without saying how much you’ve supported the folks in this community over the years. So thank you.
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By Daniel5691
#67270
PS Damn Josh I forgot how insane your 928 is.
LOVE THAT VIDEO .

1000000000000000 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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By fpena944
#67304
cz- wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:04 pm
Sad. Really sad. But if this forum didn't exist I would have made one of my own on my home servers here.
That's exactly how this place got started!

After the OT massacre I immediately purchased a domain and installed phpBB on a server I'd been holding on to for some personal projects. I'd never done more than play with it before so it was all a learning experience that many terrific and patient friends on here helped me work through.

I was afraid that OT was going to shut down and I would end up losing contact and the dialog I really enjoy with the old group. Although in recent years I lurked more than posted, it was still a big part of my life I didn't want to lose out on.

Somehow it caught on quickly and we rebranded and became an "official" independent entity where the sky is now the limit!

I know we're still small and we're sure to endure some growing pains. We've already seen some of it, but I've given you all my word that I will do what we collectively feel is in the best interest of this community. It may not always make everyone happy but I've promised to be objective and explain any decisions so that we don't end up with a repeat of the behavior that has tainted our previous home.

And for any new refugees that want to access the Diner and Dive bar (OT forums), please reach out to me and I'll grant you access. We do offer paid memberships but for anyone seeking asylum I'm not about to force it so let me know and we'll get you in there.

For all the newbies...welcome!
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By Daniel5691
#67328
lol so I wonder how much it costs to get an Ultra Super Best Sponsor Subscription on RL.

I could sign Scheissco up.
Then as a big scary whale sponsor I could get all triggered and become oh-ffended at all the other vendors and whine and get them all kicked off ha ha. Money talks babay
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By hlee96
#67332
WTF! Roger being bullied to leave as sponsor the first time already pissed me off, and this ban (is it temporary or permanent?) really pushed me close to quitting as a regular viewer. Roger is one of the TOP 3 reasons I decided in 2014 to join the insanity of 928 ownership (Sean and Stan being the other 2), and I would not know much about Greg's products without Roger making them available when I purchase parts.

With now Rennlist being a glorified archival place and no longer a useful new/continuing tech forum for 928, why can't we begin to start threads here with links to historic Rennlist tech topics/rebuilds that we find so useful?

I am keeping my membership though, since it is an useful site for some products/cars transactions.
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By Schocki
#67333
Time to join you guys. Otherwise I'll have no idea about great advertisements from my amigo Roger and how would the guys in the biggest 928 Forum in Germany (PFF) ever know about them?
BTW Can't wait for all of the three 88-95 aftermarket fuel regulators to be available. Guys are waiting for them overseas :biggrin: ....
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By linderpat
#67334
fpena944 wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:29 pm
cz- wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:04 pm
Sad. Really sad. But if this forum didn't exist I would have made one of my own on my home servers here.
That's exactly how this place got started!

After the OT massacre I immediately purchased a domain and installed phpBB on a server I'd been holding on to for some personal projects. I'd never done more than play with it before so it was all a learning experience that many terrific and patient friends on here helped me work through.

I was afraid that OT was going to shut down and I would end up losing contact and the dialog I really enjoy with the old group. Although in recent years I lurked more than posted, it was still a big part of my life I didn't want to lose out on.

Somehow it caught on quickly and we rebranded and became an "official" independent entity where the sky is now the limit!

I know we're still small and we're sure to endure some growing pains. We've already seen some of it, but I've given you all my word that I will do what we collectively feel is in the best interest of this community. It may not always make everyone happy but I've promised to be objective and explain any decisions so that we don't end up with a repeat of the behavior that has tainted our previous home.

And for any new refugees that want to access the Diner and Dive bar (OT forums), please reach out to me and I'll grant you access. We do offer paid memberships but for anyone seeking asylum I'm not about to force it so let me know and we'll get you in there.

For all the newbies...welcome!
It would be impossible to overstate what Fernando (fpena944) has done here. The speed with which he moved to set up this alternative site and the mustering of resources to get it going and make it viable for more than a few hours was amazing. The whole back story is in the Dive Bar section (What happened on Rennlist thread), but don't venture in there unless P&C rough and tumble is your thing. Check out that thread though for the whole history of this place.

Thank you Fernando! :bowdown:
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By Don Smith
#67357
Hi guys. I just bought Oups59's 1988 S4, and signed up on RL...... Sheeet! Anyways, here I am. Looking forward to reaching out and getting in touch again. ( my last 928 had a car b q) My car is only coming out after the snow disappears, probably late April.. I know, I know. Photos. Cheers, Don
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By captainOCD
#67378
It's as if the mods over there looked at Facebook and Twitter bans and thought, yeah we'd like to get in on that.
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By Don Smith
#67401
Daniel5691 wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:46 am Holy smokes that's gorgeous
NIce
Thank you.
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By fpena944
#67410
linderpat wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:25 am
It would be impossible to overstate what Fernando (fpena944) has done here. The speed with which he moved to set up this alternative site and the mustering of resources to get it going and make it viable for more than a few hours was amazing. The whole back story is in the Dive Bar section (What happened on Rennlist thread), but don't venture in there unless P&C rough and tumble is your thing. Check out that thread though for the whole history of this place.

Thank you Fernando! :bowdown:
Time sure has flown by as I remember it was July 29th and I just installed and yelled from the rooftop, "come on in!"

It was messy but look at us all now. :biggrin:

You're welcome @linderpat , thank you for your support!!!
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