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By hans14914
#149136
I have batch of shifters coming in, including the well-know P9-MS01 fully adjustable lever for all years, and the P9-MS02 adjustable pivot clamp (also for all years).

In this batch is a run of the P9-MS03 non-adjustable front link delete for 87+ cars and a new short shift lever the P9-MS05.

The P9-MS05 lever is a new product. It has a fixed shortened throw and shortened knob height set to an ideal level relative to the factory (non-extended) cassette holder/armrest. It uses the most popular (and my preferred) pivot distance for a stock front link. This lever still uses the press-fit Igus Z-series self-lubricated bushings as its adjustable brother, but with the reduces machining is available at a lower price. It complements the P9-MS03 fixed height front link delete but works equally well as a direct replacement for the stock lever with no other changes.

P9-MS05:
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Assembly with the P9-MS03 front link delete:
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P9-MS03:
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Most of you already know the P9-MS01 lever and P9-MS02 pivot clamp. The lever allows you to infinitely adjust the shifter pivot (throw) and select several different knob heights. The clamp replaces the entire front link assembly and allows for the bearing car to be raised proportionally to the shifter pivot to keep the rear link parallel into tube to reduce binding at the transmission.

P9-MS01:
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P9-MS02:
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Parts are going into anodizing this week, and will be available within the next 10-15 days.

Pricing as of 5/11/22 is as follows:
P9-MS01 - $185
P9-MS02 - $395
P9-MS03 - $175
P9-MS05 - $90
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By worf
#149148
Very nice!
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By The Fat Man
#149281
This is disgustingly awesome!
I would almost go buy an S4 just to be able to install this complete shifter system. :biggrin:

Well done, Hans!
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By worf
#149283
The Fat Man wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 1:16 pm This is disgustingly awesome!
I would almost go buy an S4 just to be able to install this complete shifter system. :biggrin:

Well done, Hans!
It’ll work just fine in any 5-speed. IIRC that stuff is the same ‘78 to ‘95.

So…
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By worf
#149284
FYI, I’ve installed three sets of Hans’ “full-monty” setup in client’s 928s.

I keep them “in stock.”
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By worf
#149461
linderpat wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 9:41 am Nice and very tempting. I favor long sticks though.
You miss the point I think? Hans’ gizmos remove the front ball cup and all its slop and failure modes. The lever is cake icing.

The “full monty” solution allows independent adjustment of shift throw and lever length. So, you could have a long stick and a short throw if you wanted. Or a short stick and a long throw.
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By The Fat Man
#149536
worf wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 1:49 pm It’ll work just fine in any 5-speed. IIRC that stuff is the same ‘78 to ‘95.

So…
The Red Witch is an automatic...
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By worf
#149540
The Fat Man wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 9:43 pm
worf wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 1:49 pm It’ll work just fine in any 5-speed. IIRC that stuff is the same ‘78 to ‘95.

So…
The Red Witch is an automatic...
Conversion :rockon:
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By The Fat Man
#149625
Never.
If I want a 5spd 928, I'll sell a testicle and buy a 5spd 928.
And, proper 5spd conversions are not for the faint of heart. Or wallet.
:biggrin:
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By worf
#149626
The Fat Man wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 5:27 pm And, proper 5spd conversions are not for the faint of heart. Or wallet.
True dat.
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By bizman928
#154117
Great quality engineering! Nice one!
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By Sazerac
#154473
I have been shamefully absent from the forum these last months, but I have to make a plug for this product...

Both of my cars have the P9-MS02, and I love the shifting feeling. Other than the Eibach/Koni shock set-up, it is the only other "tactually noticeable" modification to my cars. Although the 928 GT transmission (and clutch) are very heavy by modern standards, the set-up changes the interaction of the transmission to "heavy but precision machinery-like" instead of "some times vaguely tractor-like" as is the case with the stock set-up.

For the sake of pure enjoyment, I highly advise this product. My only minor concern is that my units were installed with the TT out. This was a breeze, and I doubt it will ever need maintenance. However, I think the disassembly with the TT in-situ could be difficult.

Buy with confidence here.
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By Benno
#155579
Hey Hans, I'm looking at one of your solutions for my GTS 5-spd conversion project. The front slide bearing on my spare parts is shot and so I am looking at replacing the front pivot with either P9-MS03 or P9-MS02.
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My question to you Hans is what is the difference in terms of functionality and quality between the two clamps? As I look at the picture posted above it's not clear to me how the device is more adjustable.

What sorts of modifications are required to the foam insulation that goes on the torque tube?
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By hans14914
#155615
Shot you an email before seeing this. Will post the content here too:

"MS02 is the original no-holds-bar design.  It uses a top quality Enduro dual row bearing for the rotational axis.  This is loaded in a bearing car that can be moved vertically in 1mm increments with different bushings available from McMaster for under $2.  You want to raise the axis to keep the rear shift link parallel to the tube and input selector on the trans.  Many short shift levers do not compensate for the geometry change, and you get binding at the rear coupler.  

MS03 has a fixed pivot height, similar to the stock 87+ rotational axis.  It has Igus Z-series bushings for the rotation (instead of the bearing above).  Both are fully constrained, and offer much crisper shifting than the stock solution.  

The MS02 has the benefit of being adjusted from the cockpit after install, and the bearing can easily be replaced from above (if ever necessary).  

The MS01 lever has several adjustment points for not only the throw, but the height of the knob as well.  I find I prefer the lower position, as it keep the knob inline with the standard height center armrest.

If there was enough request, I could add an extended height lever option - it would just be a longer insert.  I would need to get a couple other people that would want super tall levers before ordering them, but its easily swapped in withing minutes by just pulling up the boot.  

These models may help you see how it all works:"

http://cloudviewer.spaceclaim.com/d5f2b ... ede7f.html

http://cloudviewer.spaceclaim.com/c251d ... 8809c.html
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By Erik N
#155631
The Fat Man wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 5:27 pm If I want a 5spd 928, I'll sell a testicle and buy a 5spd 928.
Fat Man- my green car is tentatively for sale. It has all the good bits but you could put Hans's shifter on it if you want. It's in San Antonio.
I forget the miles, probably around 80K on it.
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By The Fat Man
#155668
Erik N wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:41 pm
The Fat Man wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 5:27 pm If I want a 5spd 928, I'll sell a testicle and buy a 5spd 928.
Fat Man- my green car is tentatively for sale. It has all the good bits but you could put Hans's shifter on it if you want. It's in San Antonio.
I forget the miles, probably around 80K on it.

Hi ERIK N!

Thanks for the offer! However, I made that statement mainly in jest. I am $38,000+ into my Red Witch, with no signs of stopping. It will be some time before I even think about another 928. :biggrin:
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By worf
#155683
Benno wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 2:25 pm What sorts of modifications are required to the foam insulation that goes on the torque tube?
I have only installed (several sets of) Hans’ original design. My sensibility for the install requires modification of the tunnel foam. His newest piece looks like I would require about the same modification of the foam.

That written, I take a chunk out of the foam to accommodate the pivot and base and then another two ‘slices’ out of the foam to accommodate the torque tube clamp.

These mods done, of course, with the foam and shifter pieces on a bench.
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By Erik N
#155700
The Fat Man wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:35 am
Erik N wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:41 pm
The Fat Man wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 5:27 pm If I want a 5spd 928, I'll sell a testicle and buy a 5spd 928.
Fat Man- my green car is tentatively for sale. It has all the good bits but you could put Hans's shifter on it if you want. It's in San Antonio.
I forget the miles, probably around 80K on it.

Hi ERIK N!

Thanks for the offer! However, I made that statement mainly in jest. I am $38,000+ into my Red Witch, with no signs of stopping. It will be some time before I even think about another 928. :biggrin:
$38K? You forgot the purchase price!
You know, I have a few inches of receipts that come with my car... I've owned it for 22 years. But I literally never added them up! I probably have the same amount invested in her as well. And those were pre-inflation dollars!

Hans- sorry for the hijack :beerchug:

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